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After a while you may find that the nibbles you get are more interesting than your original purpose of fixing the machine.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: After a while you may
If you have a high evaluation of yourself then your ability to recognize new facts is weakened.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: If you have a high
I don't know why - it's just that - I don't know - they're not kin." - Surprising word, I think to myself never used it before. Not of kin - sounds like hillbilly talk - not of a kind - same root - kindness, too - they can't have real kindness toward him, they're not his kin
. That's exactly the feeling.
Old word, so ancient it's almost drowned out. What a change through the centuries. Now anybody can be "kind." And everybody's supposed to be. Except that long ago it was something you were born into and couldn't help. Now it's just a faked-up attitude half the time, like teachers the first day of class. But what do they really know about kindness who are not kin.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I don't know why -
People spend their entire lives at those lower altitudes without any awareness that this high country exists.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: People spend their entire lives
Laws of nature are human inventions, like ghosts. Laws of logic, or mathematics are also human inventions, like ghosts. The whole blessed thing is a human invention, including the idea that it isn't a human invention.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Laws of nature are human
I suppose philosophy is historically not a woman's game, though that is changing.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I suppose philosophy is historically
The more you read, the more you calm down.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The more you read, the
That's all the motorcycle is, a system of concepts worked out in steel. There's no part in it, no shape in it, that is not out of someone's mind [...] I've noticed that people who have never worked with steel have trouble seeing this - that the motorcycle is primarily a mental phenomenon. They associate metal with given shapes - pipes, rods, girders, tools, parts - all of them fixed and inviolable., and think of it as primarily physical. But a person who does machining or foundry work or forger work or welding sees "steel" as having no shape at all. Steel can be any shape you want if you are skilled enough, and any shape but the one you want if you are not. Shapes, like this tappet, are what you arrive at, what you give to the steel. Steel has no more shape than this old pile of dirt on the engine here. These shapes are all of someone's mind. That's important to see. The steel? Hell, even the steel is out of someone's mind. There's no steel in nature. Anyone from the Bronze Age could have told you that. All nature has is a potential for steel. There's nothing else there.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: That's all the motorcycle is,
He is not stubborn, not narrow-minded, not lazy, not stupid. There was just no easy explanation. So it was left up in the air, a kind of mystery that one gives up on because there is no sense in just going round and round and round looking for an answer that's not there.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: He is not stubborn, not
A photograph can show a physical image in which time is static, and a mirror can show a physical image in which time is dynamic, but I think that what he saw on the mountain was another kind of image altogether which was not physical and did not exist in time at all.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: A photograph can show a
The real cycle you're working on is a cycle called yourself.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The real cycle you're working
Mental reflection os so much more interesting than tv [that]it's a shame more people don't switch over to it. They probably think what they hear is unimportant, but it never is.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Mental reflection os so much
The most moral activity of all is the creation of space for life to move around.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The most moral activity of
I suppose you could call that a personality. Each machine has its own, unique personality which probably could be defined as the intuitive sum total of everything you know and feel about it. This personality constantly changes, usually for the worse, but sometimes surprisingly for the better, and it is this personality that is the real object of motorcycle maintenance.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I suppose you could call
There is no perfectly shaped part of the motorcycle and never will be, but when you come as close as these instruments take you, remarkable things happen, and you go flying across the countryside under a power that would be called magic if it were not so completely rational in every way.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: There is no perfectly shaped
Actually I've never seen a cycle-maintenance problem complex enough really to require full-scale formal scientific method. Repair problems are not that hard. When I think of formal scientific method an image sometimes comes to mind of an enormous juggernaut, a huge bulldozer-slow, tedious, lumbering, laborious, but invincible. It takes twice as long, five times as long, maybe a dozen times as long as informal mechanic's techniques, but you know in the end you're going to get it. There's no fault isolation problem in motorcycle maintenance that can stand up to it. When you've hit a really tough one, tried everything, racked your brain and nothing works, and you know that this time Nature has really decided to be difficult, you say, "Okay, Nature, that's the end of the nice guy," and you crank up the formal scientific method.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Actually I've never seen a
May, will you please, kindly DIG it," he remembered one of them saying, "and hold up on all those wonderful seven-dollar questions? If you got to ask what IS it all the time, you'll never get time to KNOW.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: May, will you please, kindly
The buddah can reside in the gears of a motorcycle as easily as in a flower on a mountaintop. To believe otherwise is to demean the buddah; which is to demean one's self.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The buddah can reside in
Mythos is the sum total of the early historic and prehistoric myths which preceded the logos. The mythos includes not only the Greek myths but the Old Testament, the Vedic Hymns and the early legends of all cultures which have contributed to our present world understanding.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Mythos is the sum total
Why, for example, should a group of simple, stable compounds of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen struggle for billions of years to organise themselves into a professor of chemistry? What's the motive?
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Why, for example, should a
I have been a lifelong Democrat. Like all ideas, though, the Democrat ideas need to be dynamic. It needs to be kept current.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I have been a lifelong
So we navigate mostly by dead reckoning, and deduction from what clues we find. I keep a compass in one pocket for overcast days when the sun doesn't show directions and have the map mounted in a special carrier on top of the gas tank where I can keep track of miles from the last junction and know what to look for. With those tools and a lack of pressure to 'get somewhere' it works out fine and we just about have America all to ourselves.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: So we navigate mostly by
You can reduce your anxiety somewhat by facing the fact that there isn't a mechanic alive who doesn't louse up a job once in a while. The main difference between you and the commercial mechanics is that when they do it you don't hear about it - just pay for it, in additional costs prorated through all your bills. When you make the mistakes yourself, you at least get the benefit of some education.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: You can reduce your anxiety
People say mental hospitals are for the patients, in fact they are to protect society from them. They are justified in doing that. Society has to do what is best for itself.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: People say mental hospitals are
I make some jokes about it, but they're not funny and just add to the depression.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I make some jokes about
What I am is a heretic who's recanted and, thereby, in everyone's eyes, saved his soul. Everyone's eyes but one, who knows deep down inside that all he has saved is his skin.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: What I am is a
Quality ... you know what it is, yet you don't know what it is. But that's self-contradictory. But some things are better than others, that is, they have more quality. But when you try to say what the quality is, apart from the things that have it, it all goes poof! There's nothing to talk about. But if you can't say what Quality is, how do you know what it is, or how do you know that it even exists? If no one knows what it is, then for all practical purposes it doesn't exist at all. But for all practical purposes it really does exist. What else are the grades based on? Why else would people pay fortunes for some things and throw others in the trash pile? Obviously some things are better than others ... but what's the betterness? ... So round and round you go, spinning mental wheels and nowhere finding anyplace to get traction. What the hell is Quality? What is it?
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Quality ... you know what
I read a sentence or two, wait for him to come up with his usual barrage of questions, answer them, then read another sentence or two. Classics read well this way.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I read a sentence or
An evolutionary morality argues that The North was right in pursuing that war because a nation is a higher form of evolution than a human body and the principle of human equality is an even higher form than a nation
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: An evolutionary morality argues that
The best students always are flunking. Every good teacher knows that.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The best students always are
One of the most moral acts is to create a space in which life can move forward.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: One of the most moral
The cause of our current social crises, he would have said, is a genetic defect within the nature of reason itself. And until this genetic defect is cleared, the crises will continue. Our current modes of rationality are not moving society forward into a better world. They are taking it further and further from that better world. Since the Renaissance these modes have worked. As long as the need for food, clothing and shelter is dominant they will continue to work. But now that for huge masses of people these needs no longer overwhelm everything else, the whole structure of reason, handed down to us from ancient times, is no longer adequate. It begins to be seen for what it really is ... emotionally hollow, esthetically meaningless and spiritually empty.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The cause of our current
To some extent the romantic condemnation of rationality stems from the very effectiveness of rationality in uplifting men from primitive conditions.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: To some extent the romantic
Quality tends to fan out like waves.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Quality tends to fan out
The Buddha takes no position on gods, he suggests they may exist or they may not, but either way you can live a moral life.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The Buddha takes no position
The way to see what looks good and understand the reasons it looks good, and to be at one with this goodness as the work proceeds, is to cultivate an inner quietness, a peace of mind so that goodness can shine through.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The way to see what
If you run from technology, it will chase you.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: If you run from technology,
I'm about to sharpen up the engine a little.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I'm about to sharpen up
That's the way the world keeps on happening. Be interested in it.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: That's the way the world
This is the hardest stuff in the world to photograph. You need a three-hundred-and-sixty-degree lens, or something. You see it, and then you look down in the ground glass and it's just nothing. As soon as you put a border on it, it's gone.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: This is the hardest stuff
Whole community of millions of living things living out their lives in a kind of benign continuum.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Whole community of millions of
Art is the Godhead as revealed in the works of man.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Art is the Godhead as
The trouble is that essays always have to sound like God talking for eternity, and that isn't the way it ever is. People should see that it's never anything other than just one person talking from one place in time and space and circumstance. It's never been anything else, ever, but you can't get that across in an essay.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The trouble is that essays
To the ocean. That sounds right. Where the waves roll in slowly and there's always a roar and you can't fall anywhere. You're already there.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: To the ocean. That sounds
It is not good to talk about Zen, because Zen is nothingness ... If you talk about it, you are always lying, and if you don't talk about it, no one knows it is there.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: It is not good to
What's wrong with technology is that it's not connected in any real way with matters of the spirit and of the heart. And so it does blind, ugly things quite by accident and gets hated for that.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: What's wrong with technology is
Absence of Quality is the essence of squareness.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Absence of Quality is the
Quality is a direct experience independent of and prior to intellectual abstractions.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Quality is a direct experience
It's paradoxical that where people are most closely crowded, in the big coastal cities of the East and West, the loneliness is the greatest ... The explanation is that the physical distance between people has nothing to do with loneliness. It's psychic distance.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: It's paradoxical that where people
Peace of mind produces right values, right values produce right thoughts. Right thoughts produce right actions and right actions produce work which will be a material reflection for others to see of the serenity at the center of it all.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Peace of mind produces right
You have to remember, that insane people can do some horrors themselves. I had committed no crime, though. I hadn't shot anybody. Yet.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: You have to remember, that
Overall goals must be scaled down in importance and immediate goals must be scaled up.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Overall goals must be scaled
but it can't tell you where you ought to go, unless where you ought to go is a continuation of where you were going in the past. Creativity, originality, inventiveness, intuition, imagination - "unstuckness," in other words - are completely outside its domain. We
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: but it can't tell you
The idea that the majority of students attend a university for an education independent of the degree and grades is a hypocrisy everyone is happier not to expose. Occasionally some students do arrive for an education but rote and mechanical nature of the institution soon converts them to a less idealic attitude
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The idea that the majority
The more you look, the more you see.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The more you look, the
A finely tempered nature longs to escape from his noisy cramped surroundings into the silence of the high mountains where the eye ranges freely through the still pure air and fondly traces out the restful contours apparently built for eternity.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: A finely tempered nature longs
It's the clothes that make them think you're not really there.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: It's the clothes that make
Metaphysics is a restaurant where they give you a thirty thousand page menu, and no food.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Metaphysics is a restaurant where
The One in India has got to be the same as the One in Greece. If it's not, you've got two. The only disagreements among the monists concern the attributes of the One, not the One itself. Since the One is the source of all things and includes all things in it, it cannot be defined in terms of those things, since no matter what thing you use to define it, the thing will always describe something less than the One itself.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The One in India has
Any person of any philosophic persuasion who sits on a hot stove will verify without any intellectual argument whatsoever that he is in an undeniably low-quality situation: that the value of his predicament is negative. This low quality is not just a vague, woolly-headed, crypto-religious, metaphysical abstraction. It is an experience. It is not a judgment about an experience. It is not a description of experience. The value itself is an experience. As such it is completely predictable. It is verifiable by anyone who cares to do so.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Any person of any philosophic
Sometime look at a novice workman or a bad workman and compare his expression with that of a craftsman whose work you know is excellent and you'll see the difference. The craftsman isn't ever following a single line of instruction. He's making decisions as he goes along. For that reason he'll be absorbed and attentive to what he's doing even though he doesn't deliberately contrive this. His motions and the machine are in a kind of harmony. He isn't following any set of written instructions because the nature of the material at hand determines his thoughts and motions, which simultaneously change the nature of the material at hand. The material and his thoughts are changing together in a progression of changes until his mind's at rest at the same time the material's right.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Sometime look at a novice
And from time to time you find your "county road" takes you onto a two-rutter and then a single rutter and then into a pasture and stops, or else it takes you into some farmer's backyard.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: And from time to time
To discover a metaphysical relationship between Quality and the Buddha at some mountaintop of personal experience is very spectacular. And very unimportant. If that were all this Chautauqua was about I should be dismissed. What's important is the relevance of such a discovery to all the valleys of this world, and all the dull, dreary jobs and monotonous years that await all of us in them.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: To discover a metaphysical relationship
Pretty mountains, pretty river, bumpy but pleasant tar road ... old buildings, old people on a front porch ... strange how old, obsolete buildings and plants and mills, the technology of fifty and a hundred years ago, always seem to look so much better than the new stuff.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Pretty mountains, pretty river, bumpy
Unusual behavior tends to produce estrangement in others which tends to further the unusual behavior and thus the estrangement in self-stoking cycles until some sort of climax is reached.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Unusual behavior tends to produce
Caring about what you are doing is considered either unimportant or taken for granted.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Caring about what you are
I think it was Coleridge who said everyone is either a Platonist or an Aristotelian. People who can't stand Aristotle's endless specificity of detail are natural lovers of Plato's soaring generalities. People who can't stand the eternal lofty idealism of Plato welcome the down-to-earth facts of Aristotle.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I think it was Coleridge
The Buddha resides as comfortably in the circuits of a digital computer or the gears of a cycle transmission as he does at the top of a mountain.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The Buddha resides as comfortably
Other people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what I have to say has more lasting value.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Other people can talk about
Only social patterns can control biological patterns, and the instrument of conversation between society and biology is not words. The instrument of conversation between society and biology has always been a policeman or a soldier and his gun.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Only social patterns can control
When one isn't dominated by feelings of separateness from what he's working on, then one can be said to "care" about what he's doing. That is what caring really is, a feeling of identification with what one's doing.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: When one isn't dominated by
We're in such a hurry most of the time we never get much chance to talk. The result is a kind of endless day-to-day shallowness, a monotony that leaves a person wondering years later where all the time went and sorry that it's all gone.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: We're in such a hurry
The kid who is scared is the one the bullies go after. I used to get beat up pretty badly.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The kid who is scared
I think now the trace of egotism may have been the beginning of all his troubles
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I think now the trace
The way to solve the conflict between human values and technology needs is not to run away from technology. That's impossible. The way to resolve the conflict is to break down the barriers of dualistic thought that prevent a real understanding of what technology is
not an exploitation of nature, but a fusion of nature and the human spirit into a new kind of creation that transcends both.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The way to solve the
We want to make good time, but for us now this is measured with the emphasis on "good" rather than on "time" ...
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: We want to make good
What we have here is a conflict of visions of reality. The world as you see it right here, right now, is reality, regardless of what the scientists say it might be. That's the way John sees it. But the world as revealed by its scientific discoveries is also reality, regardless of how it may appear,
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: What we have here is
Man is not the source of all things, as the subjective idealists would say. Nor is he the passive observer of all things, as the objective idealists would say. The Quality which creates the world emerges as a relationship between man and his experience. He is a participant in the creation of all things. The measure of all things ...
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Man is not the source
Once they got into the idea of seeing directly for themselves they also saw there was no limit to the amount they could say. It was a confidence building assignment too, because what they wrote, even though seemingly trivial, was nevertheless their own thing, not a mimicking of someone else's.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Once they got into the
When you look directly at an insane man all you see is a reflection of your own knowledge that he's insane, which is not to see him at all.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: When you look directly at
It made the kids at camp much more enthusiastic and cooperative when they had ego goals to fulfill, I'm sure, but ultimately that kind of motivation is destructive. Any effort that has self-glorification as its final endpoint is bound to end in disaster. Now we're paying the price. When you try to climb a mountain to prove how big you are, you almost never make it. And even if you do it's a hollow victory. In order to sustain victory you have to prove yourself again and again in some other way, and again and again and again, driven forever to fill a false image, haunted by the fear that the image is not true and someone will find out. That's never the way.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: It made the kids at
What keeps the world from reverting to the Neanderthal with each generation is the continuing, ongoing mythos ... the huge body of common knowledge that unites our minds as cells are united in the body of man ...
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: What keeps the world from
A culture that supports the dominance of social values over biological values is an absolutely superior culture to one that does not, and a culture that supports the dominance of intellectual values over social values is absolutely superior to one that does not.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: A culture that supports the
Talk about rationality can get very confusing unless the things with which rationality deals are also included.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Talk about rationality can get
Finally, if you're as exasperated as I am by the parts problem and have some money to invest, you can take up the really fascinating hobby of machining your own parts. [ ... ] With the welding equipment you can build up worn surfaces with better than original metal and then machine it back to tolerance with carbide tools. [ ... ] If you can't do the job directly you can always make something that will do it. The work of machining a part is very slow, and some parts, such as ball bearings, you're never going to machine, but you'd be amazed at how you can modify parts designs so that you can make them with your equipment, and the work isn't nearly a slow or frustrating as a wait for some smirking parts man to send away to the factory. And the work is gumption building, not gumption destroying. To run a cycle with parts in it you've made yourself gives you a special feeling you can't possibly get from strictly store-bought parts.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Finally, if you're as exasperated
The primitive tribes permitted far less individual freedom than does modern society. Ancient wars were committed with far less moral justification than modern ones. A technology that produces debris can find, and is finding, ways of disposing of it without ecological upset. And the schoolbook pictures of primitive man sometimes omit some of the detractions of his primitive life - the pain, the disease, famine, the hard labor needed just to stay alive. From that agony of bare existence to modern life can be soberly described only as upward progress, and the sole agent for this progress is quite clearly reason itself.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The primitive tribes permitted far
Now the stream of our common consciousness seems to be obliterating its own banks, losing its central direction and purpose, flooding the lowlands, disconnecting and isolating the highlands and to no particular purpose other than the wasteful fulfillment of its own internal momentum
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Now the stream of our
The solutions all are simple - after you have arrived at them. But they're simple only when you know already what they are.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The solutions all are simple
Chris asks, "What are you going to stick to?"
"Mah guns, boy, mah guns," I tell him. "That's the Code of the West.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Chris asks,
I don't want to own these prairies, or photograph them, or change them, or even stop or even keep going.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: I don't want to own
Analytic and romantic understanding should be united at a basic level. Reassimilate the passions from which the rational mind fled.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Analytic and romantic understanding should
The number of hypotheses available to explain any given phenomenon is infinite.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The number of hypotheses available
Familiarity can blind you
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Familiarity can blind you
The range of human knowledge today is so great that we're all specialists and the distance between specializations has become so great that anyone who seeks to wander freely between them almost has to forego closeness with the people around him.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The range of human knowledge
For every fact there is an infinity of hypotheses.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: For every fact there is
Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: Sometimes it's a little better
What was behind this smug presumption that what pleased you was bad or at least unimportant in comparison to other things? ...
Little children were trained not to do "just what they liked' but ... but what? ... Of course! What others liked. And which others? Parents, teachers, supervisors, policemen, judges, officials, kings, dictators. All authorities.
When you are trained to despise "just what you like" then, of course, you become a much more obedient servant of others - a good slave. When you learn not to do "just what you like" then the System loves you.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: What was behind this smug
It's important now to just live with this and not fight it mentally ... mind control ... .
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: It's important now to just
You always suppress momentary anger at something you deeply and permanently hate.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: You always suppress momentary anger
The reality of the Good, represented by the Sophists, and the reality of the True, represented by the dialecticians, were engaged in a huge struggle for the future mind of man. Truth won, the Good lost, and that is why today we have so little difficulty accepting the reality of truth and so much difficulty accepting the reality of Quality, even though there is no more agreement in one area than in the other.
Robert M. Pirsig Quotes: The reality of the Good,
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