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That's an incredibly depressing thought," I said "that if you're in a room and at one end lies madness and at the other end lies sanity it is human nature to veer towards the madness end.
Jon Ronson Quotes: That's an incredibly depressing thought,
Guy Savelli's role in the War on Terror began when half-a-dozen strangers, within days of one another, contacted him via e-mail and telephone in the winter of 2003. They asked him if he had the power to psychically kill goats. Guy was bewildered. He did not go around publicizing this. Who were these men? How did they know about the goats? He feigned a casual tone of voice and said, 'Sure I can.'
Then he phoned Special Forces.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Guy Savelli's role in the
Soon after Justine Sacco's shaming, I was talking with a friend, a journalist, who told me he had so many jokes, little observations, potentially risqué thoughts, that he wouldn't dare to post online anymore.

'I suddenly feel with social media like I'm tiptoeing around an unpredictable, angry, unbalanced parent who might strike out at any moment,' he said. 'It's horrible.'

He didn't want me to name him, he said, in case it sparked something off.

We see ourselves as nonconformist, but I think all of this is creating a more conformist, conservative age.

'Look!' we're saying. 'WE'RE normal! THIS is the average!'

We are defining the boundaries of normality by tearing apart the people outside of it.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Soon after Justine Sacco's shaming,
Friends are the fruitcake of life - some nutty, some soaked in alcohol, some sweet.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Friends are the fruitcake of
Trying to solve the mystery is what I enjoy most about writing.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Trying to solve the mystery
[W]e need to think twice about raining down vengeance and anger as our default position.
Jon Ronson Quotes: [W]e need to think twice
In the midst of a burning-hot shaming, calling for patience and context and understanding and empathy can really land you in trouble.
Jon Ronson Quotes: In the midst of a
I kept remembering something Michael Fertik had said to me at the Village Pub in Woodside. 'The biggest lie,' he said, 'is "The Internet is about you." We like to think of ourselves as people who have choice and taste and personalized content. But the Internet isn't about us. It's about the companies that dominate the data flows of the Internet.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I kept remembering something Michael
The Americans have always been better than the Iraqis at the leaflets. Early on in the first Gulf War, Iraqi PsyOps dropped a batch of their own leaflets on US troops, designed to be psychologically devastating. They read, 'Your wives are back at home having sex with Bart Simpson and Burt Reynolds.
Jon Ronson Quotes: The Americans have always been
Psychiatric diagnoses are getting closer and closer to the boundary of normal," said Allen Frances. "That boundary is very populous. The most crowded boundary is the boundary with normal."
"Why?" I asked.
"There's a societal push for conformity in all ways," he said. "There's less tolerance of difference. And so maybe for some people having a label is better. It can confer a sense of hope and direction. 'Previously I was laughed at, I was picked on, no one liked me, but now I can talk to fellow bipolar sufferers on the Internet and no longer feel alone.'" He paused. "In the old days some of them may have been given a more stigmatizing label like conduct disorder or personality disorder or oppositional defiant disorder. Childhood bipolar takes the edge of guilt away from parents that maybe they created an oppositional child.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Psychiatric diagnoses are getting closer
We have to understand how the extremists got the way they are. Without that kind of understanding, we'd never really get to know them. I put in nothing about their childhoods. But what I have put in is stuff about the weird symbiotic relationship between us and them.
Jon Ronson Quotes: We have to understand how
The way we construct consciousness is to tell the story of ourselves to ourselves, the story of who we believe we are. I feel that a really public shaming or humiliation is a conflict between the person trying to write his own narrative and society trying to write a different narrative for the person. One story tries to overwrite the other. And so to survive you have to own your story. Or . . .' Mike looked at me, '. . . you write a third story. You react to the narrative that's been forced upon you.' He paused. 'You have to find a way to disrespect the other narrative,' he said. 'If you believe it, it will crush you.' I
Jon Ronson Quotes: The way we construct consciousness
I vaguely remembered hearing psychologists say there was a preponderance of psychopaths at the top - in the corporate and political worlds - a clinical absence of empathy being a benefit in those environments.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I vaguely remembered hearing psychologists
I feel that a really public shaming or humiliation is a conflict between the person trying to write his own narrative and society trying to write a different narrative for that person. One story tries to overwrite the other and so to survive you have to own your story.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I feel that a really
Learning how to walk through walls was an ambitious but inexpensive enterprise.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Learning how to walk through
the madness business is filled with people like Tony, reduced to their maddest edges.
Jon Ronson Quotes: the madness business is filled
Feeling no remorse must be a blessing when all you have are your memories
Jon Ronson Quotes: Feeling no remorse must be
The DSM-IV-TR is a 943-page textbook published by the American Psychiatric Association that sells for $99 ... There are currently 374 mental disorders. I bought the book ... and leafed through it ... I closed the manual. "I wonder if I've got any of the 374 mental disorders," I thought. I opened the manual again. And instantly diagnosed myself with twelve different ones.
Jon Ronson Quotes: The DSM-IV-TR is a 943-page
Others took exception to being forced to wear little-girl-type dresses (a psychopath-devised punishment for noncooperation in the program).
Jon Ronson Quotes: Others took exception to being
His name was Roger Stone. And he was the man who first introduced Alex Jones to his close friend Donald Trump. *
Jon Ronson Quotes: His name was Roger Stone.
Given all of this, you'd think LeBon's work might have at some point stopped being influential. But it never did. I suppose one reason for his enduring success is that we tend to love nothing more than to declare other people insane.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Given all of this, you'd
Nothing uniquely bad has happened to me in my personal life, but all the regular little bad things have accumulated to make me a neurotic person. And these adventures are my way of trying to make sense of that.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Nothing uniquely bad has happened
We were much more frightening than Judge Ted Poe. The powerful, crazy, cruel people I usually write about tend to be in far-off places. The powerful, crazy, cruel people were now us. It felt like we were soldiers making war on other people's flaws, and there had suddenly been an escalation in hostilities.
Jon Ronson Quotes: We were much more frightening
Once labeled schizophrenic the pseudopatient was stuck with that label. - DAVID ROSENHAN,
Jon Ronson Quotes: Once labeled schizophrenic the pseudopatient
I wondered what sort of woman loved a man like that.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I wondered what sort of
I once asked a car-crash victim what it had felt like to be in a smashup. She said her eeriest memory was how one second the car was her friend, working for her, its contours designed to fit her body perfectly, everything smooth and sleek and luxurious, and then a blink of an eye later it had become a jagged weapon of torture- like she was inside an iron maiden. Her friend had become her worst enemy.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I once asked a car-crash
And a surfeit of checklists, coupled with unscrupulous drug reps, is, Gary said, a dreadful combination. There
Jon Ronson Quotes: And a surfeit of checklists,
A crowd is only impressed by excessive sentiments. Exaggerate, affirm, resort to repetition, and never attempt to prove anything by reasoning.
Jon Ronson Quotes: A crowd is only impressed
There is no evidence that we've been placed on this planet to be especially happy or especially normal. And in fact our unhappiness and our strangeness, our anxieties and compulsions, those least fashionable aspects of our personalities, are quite often what lead us to do rather interesting things.
Jon Ronson Quotes: There is no evidence that
It's not a remarkable note except for one thing. The typeface Tony used to print it is the exact typeface Kubrick used for the posters and title sequences of 'Eyes Wide Shut' and '2001'.
'It's Futura Extra Bold,' explains Tony. 'It was Stanley's favorite typeface. It's sans serif. He liked Helvetica and Univers too. Clean and elegant.'
'Is this the kind of thing you and Kubrick used to talk about?' I asked.
'God, yes,' says Tony. 'Sometimes late into the night. I was always trying to persuade him to turn away from them. But he was wedded to his sans serifs.
Jon Ronson Quotes: It's not a remarkable note
I hadn't realized what a collage of mental disorders my whole life has been,
Jon Ronson Quotes: I hadn't realized what a
Wow, I say, politely, but I don't feel it. I'm like a sociopath when it comes to expensive cars. I feel no emotion.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Wow, I say, politely, but
So, yeah, the psychopath might cry when his dog dies and you think that's misplaced because he doesn't cry when his daughter dies." I
Jon Ronson Quotes: So, yeah, the psychopath might
The self-esteem of psychiatry got very low as a result of it. It had never really been accepted as part of medicine because the diagnoses were so unreliable, and the Rosenhan experiment confirmed it." Spitzer's
Jon Ronson Quotes: The self-esteem of psychiatry got
We journalists love writing about eccentrics. We hate writing about impenetrable, boring people. It makes us look bad: the duller the interviewee, the duller the prose. If you want to get away with wielding true, malevolent power, be boring.
Jon Ronson Quotes: We journalists love writing about
I consider it somewhat psychopathic to label someone from afar as a psychopath. We love nothing more than to declare other people insane, especially people we don't like.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I consider it somewhat psychopathic
It's not a good idea to define the boundaries of normality by tearing apart people who are outside of it.
Jon Ronson Quotes: It's not a good idea
All over the world, famous people began declaring themselves LeBon fans. Like Mussolini: "I have read all the work of Gustave LeBon and I don't know how many times I have reread The Crowd. It is a capital work to which, to this day, I frequently refer." And Goebbels: "Goebbels thinks that no one since the Frenchman LeBon has understood the mind of the masses as well as he," wrote Goebbels's aide Rudolf Semmler in his wartime diary.
Jon Ronson Quotes: All over the world, famous
if you get between the lawyer and his goal, you're going to get hurt.
Jon Ronson Quotes: if you get between the
This place is packed with beautiful hipsters. While the Coney Island bombast radiated sincerity, everything here seems more ironic. When someone in the crowd ironically chants, 'USA!' someone else ironically chants back, 'Mother Russia.
Jon Ronson Quotes: This place is packed with
The biggest lie," he said, "is, The Internet is about you." We like to think of ourselves as people who have choice and taste and personalized content. But the Internet isn't about us. It's about the companies that dominate the data flows of the Internet." Now
Jon Ronson Quotes: The biggest lie,
What happened, Bob explained to us now, although we didn't need telling, was that Jack Abbott was a psychopath. He couldn't bear being disrespected. His self-worth was too grandiose for that. He couldn't control his impulses. "When
Jon Ronson Quotes: What happened, Bob explained to
In 1996 Hubacek had been driving drunk at 100 mph with no headlights. He crashed into a van carrying a married couple and their nanny. The husband and the nanny were killed. Poe sentenced Hubacek to 110 days of boot camp, and to carry a sign once a month for ten years in front of high schools and bars that read, I KILLED TWO PEOPLE WHILE DRIVING DRUNK, and to erect a cross and a Star of David at the scene of the crash and to keep it maintained, and to keep photographs of the victims in his wallet for ten years, and to send $10 every week for ten years to a memorial fund in the names of the victims, and to observe the autopsy of a person killed in a drink-driving accident.
Jon Ronson Quotes: In 1996 Hubacek had been
I'd always wondered why there had been no mention of psychopaths in the DSM. It turned out, Spitzer told me, that there had indeed been a backstage schism - between Bob Hare and a sociologist named Lee Robins. She believed clinicians couldn't reliably measure personality traits like empathy. She proposed dropping them from the DSM checklist and going only for overt symptoms. Bob vehemently disagreed, the DSM committee sided with Lee Robins, and Psychopathy was abandoned for Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I'd always wondered why there
I think he saw his checklist as something pure - innocent as only science can be - but the humans who administered it as masses of weird prejudices and crazy predispositions. When
Jon Ronson Quotes: I think he saw his
I spent a few hours with Mercedes. She was, on the surface, quite troll-like - a lover of jubilant online chaos. She told me about her favorite 4chan thread. It was started by "a guy who's genuinely in love with his dog, and his dog went in heat, and so he went around collecting samples and injecting them into his penis and he fucked his dog and got her pregnant and they're his puppies." Mercedes laughed. "That's the thread I told the FBI about when they asked me about 4chan, and some of the officers actually got up and left the room.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I spent a few hours
A life had been ruined. What was it for: just some social media drama? I think our natural disposition as humans is to plod along until we get old and stop. But with social media, we've created a stage for constant artificial high drama. Every day a new person emerges as a magnificent hero or a sickening villain. It's all very sweeping, and not the way we actually are as people.
Jon Ronson Quotes: A life had been ruined.
If anyone should change their behaviour, I thought, it ought to be those doing the shaming.
Jon Ronson Quotes: If anyone should change their
what's the point in threatening them with imprisonment if they break the terms of their parole? The threat has no meaning for them." He
Jon Ronson Quotes: what's the point in threatening
Justice departments and parole boards all over the world have accepted his contention that psychopaths are quite simply incurable and everyone should concentrate their energies instead on learning how to root them out using his PCL-R Checklist, which he has spent a lifetime refining. His was not the only psychopath checklist around, but it was by far the most extensively used.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Justice departments and parole boards
You remain with the person you've just been yelling at until the resentments fizzle. That's how wounds heal.
Jon Ronson Quotes: You remain with the person
brilliant and audacious as ever - a beat poet of paranoia. He
Jon Ronson Quotes: brilliant and audacious as ever
Yeah, but in the end his followers take what they want from his philosophy. Maybe it doesn't matter what's going on in David Icke's mind. It's how other people take him.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Yeah, but in the end
Obviously, I like to write stories that are page-turners. But I always try my very, very hardest to be as factually true as possible.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Obviously, I like to write
(What Jim had seen tallied with studies conducted after the Second World
War by the military historian General S.L.A. Marshall. He interviewed thousands of American infantrymen and concluded that only 15-20 per cent of them had actually shot to kill. The rest had fired high or not fired at all, busying themselves however else they could. And 98 per cent of the soldiers who did shoot to kill were later found to have been deeply traumatized by their actions. The other 2 per cent were diagnosed as 'aggressive psychopathic personalities', who basically didn't mind killing people under any circumstances, at home or abroad.
The conclusion - in the words of Lieutenant Colonel Dave Grossman of the Killology Research Group - was: 'there is something about continuous, inescapable combat which will drive 98 per cent of all men insane, and the other 2 per cent were crazy when they got there'.)
Jon Ronson Quotes: (What Jim had seen tallied
On social media there's this thing where on many occasions, there's a single proscribed way of acting. Like if somebody dies, everyone has to say "R.I.P.! R.I.P.!" Basically they're saying, "Don't hurt me, I'm a good person."
Jon Ronson Quotes: On social media there's this
But with social media, we've created a stage for constant artificial high drama. Every day a new person emerges as a magnificent hero or a sickening villain.
Jon Ronson Quotes: But with social media, we've
A stab had clearly once been made at de-uglifying these public spaces by painting a corridor a jaunty yellow. This was because, it turned out, babies come here to have their brains tested and someone thought the yellow might calm them. But I couldn't see how. Such was the oppressive ugliness of this building it would have been like sticking a red nose on a cadaver and calling it Ronald McDonald.
Jon Ronson Quotes: A stab had clearly once
Their puffed-out cheeks are beetroot-red, making them resemble sweaty, meat-smeared squirrels.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Their puffed-out cheeks are beetroot-red,
We see ourselves as nonconformist, but I think all of this is creating a more conformist, conservative age.
Jon Ronson Quotes: We see ourselves as nonconformist,
What we believe is constantly reinforced by people who believe the same thing.
Jon Ronson Quotes: What we believe is constantly
I was much crazier than I had imagined. Or maybe it was a bad idea to read DSM-IV when you're not a trained professional. Or maybe the American Psychiatric Association had a crazy desire to label all life a mental disorder.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I was much crazier than
He did another experiment, the Startle Reflex Test, in which psychopaths and non-psychopaths were invited to look at grotesque images, like crime-scene photographs of blown-apart faces, and then when they least expected it, Bob would let off an incredibly loud noise in their ear. The non-psychopaths would leap with astonishment. The psychopaths would remain comparatively serene. Bob
Jon Ronson Quotes: He did another experiment, the
Suddenly, madness was everywhere, and I was determined to learn about the impact it had on the way society evolves. I've always believed society to be a fundamentally rational thing, but what if it isn't? What if it is built on insanity?
Jon Ronson Quotes: Suddenly, madness was everywhere, and
Be patient and curious instead of instantly judgemental.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Be patient and curious instead
And in fact our unhappiness and our strangeness, our anxieties and compulsions, those least fashionable aspects of our personalities, are quite often what lead us to do rather interesting things. He
Jon Ronson Quotes: And in fact our unhappiness
In fact, ever since I first learned about confirmation bias, I've been seeing it everywhere.
Jon Ronson Quotes: In fact, ever since I
I couldn't see where the collection of Burger King figurines fit in, but I supposed there was no reason why psychopaths shouldn't have unrelated hobbies.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I couldn't see where the
His idea was that humans totally lose control of their behavior in a crowd.
Jon Ronson Quotes: His idea was that humans
Our imagination is so limited, our arsenal of potential responses so narrow, that the only thing anyone can think to do with an inappropriate shamer like Adria is to punish her with a shaming. All of the shamers had themselves come from a place of shame, and it really felt parochial and self-defeating to instinctively slap shame onto shame like a clumsy builder covering cracks.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Our imagination is so limited,
The judge took one look at it and threw it out. He said the honey trap was "deceptive conduct of the grossest kind"; the idea of "a psychological profile being admissible as proof of identity in any circumstances [was] redolent with considerable danger." And
Jon Ronson Quotes: The judge took one look
He blamed psychopaths for the brutal excesses of capitalism itself, that the system at its cruelest was a manifestation of a few people's anomalous amygdalae.
Jon Ronson Quotes: He blamed psychopaths for the
It may very well be that the frotteurist is a helpless victim in the clutches of his obsession, but it's equally possible that he's simply a bored creep looking for a cheap thrill.
Jon Ronson Quotes: It may very well be
Whereas shame let out can lead to freedom, or at least to a funny story, which is a sort of freedom too.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Whereas shame let out can
Judge Ted Poe's critics - like the civil rights group the ACLU - argued to him the dangers of these ostentatious punishments, especially those that were carried out in public. They said it was no coincidence that public shaming had enjoyed such a renaissance in Mao's China and Hitler's Germany and the Ku Klux Klan's America - it destroys souls, brutalizing everyone, the onlookers included, dehumanizing them as much as the person being shamed.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Judge Ted Poe's critics -
Ask a victim to look at the positive things and she'll say, 'I can't. My eyes are swollen,
Jon Ronson Quotes: Ask a victim to look
Bedlam: an institution with a history so fearsome it gave its name to a synonym for chaos and pandemonium.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Bedlam: an institution with a
That's what I Am a Strange Loop is about," said Deborah. "It's about how we spend our lives self-referencing, over and over, in a kind of strange loop.
Jon Ronson Quotes: That's what I Am a
What a brilliant cover story. In a success-obsessed society like this one, what's the best rock to hide something under? It's the rock called failure.
Jon Ronson Quotes: What a brilliant cover story.
There's an old Internet adage that as soon as you compare something to the Nazis you lose the argument.
Jon Ronson Quotes: There's an old Internet adage
Then I get worried that if anyone is really paying attention to Happy's predilections, they might become wary of his wholesale compassion and suspect him of being an imaginary character, created by a journalist, to trick businesses into inadvertently revealing their data-trafficking practices. So I untick tigers.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Then I get worried that
I told a journalist that Dave seemed quite psychopathic (I didn't know a thing about psychopaths but I assumed that that was the sort of thing they might do).
Jon Ronson Quotes: I told a journalist that
A terrified-looking bystander, a nerdy man in a sweater, calls the police and stammers into the phone: 'A huge group of people are fighting and there's pepper spray and superheroes and I don't know.
Jon Ronson Quotes: A terrified-looking bystander, a nerdy
What we do, when we fuck up, we don't lose our job. We lose our vocation.
Jon Ronson Quotes: What we do, when we
Twitter hates tabloids, but Twitter is constantly acting like a tabloid, repeating the mistakes of the things we're hoping to better.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Twitter hates tabloids, but Twitter
The UFO community?" I said. "Why would government spies want to infiltrate that?" "Oh, Jon," said Steven. "Don't be naive.
Jon Ronson Quotes: The UFO community?
My ideal world was the early days of Twitter, where everyone was curious about each other and everyone saw it as kind of a window into people's lives where we could be compassionate and curious and empathetic and we could tell each other secrets.
Jon Ronson Quotes: My ideal world was the
We want to see ourselves as curious and open-minded and smart and understanding things in terms of context and nuance, but when someone tries to do that in the midst of a shaming they're turned on.
Jon Ronson Quotes: We want to see ourselves
Alex was growing in prominence. I noticed him trending on Twitter from time to time, for telling his now millions of fans that U.S. scientists were covertly creating "man-fish hybrids," that atheists "worship Lucifer," and that the government puts secret chemicals in juice boxes to turn Americans gay: "After you're done drinking your little juices you're ready to put makeup on, wear a short skirt, put together a garden of roses or something." And
Jon Ronson Quotes: Alex was growing in prominence.
Most goat-related military activity is still highly classified.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Most goat-related military activity is
Shall we go?' he murmured, perhaps regretting his decision to show me his army of plastic cartoon figurines.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Shall we go?' he murmured,
In 1983 Colonel Burns wrote a poem in which he envisioned how his fledgling communications network might one day influence the world.

Imagine the emergence of a new meta-culture.
Imagine all kinds of people everywhere
getting committed to human excellence,
getting committed to closing the gap
between the human condition
and the human potential...
And imagine all of us hooked up
with a common high tech communications system.
That's a vision that brings tears to the eyes.
Human excellence is an ideal
that we can embed
into every formal human structure
on our planet.
And that's really why we're going to do this.
And that's also why
The Meta Network is a creation
we can love.

Notwithstanding Colonel Burns's failure to foresee that people would use the Internet mostly to access porn and look themselves up on Google, his prescience was admirable.
Jon Ronson Quotes: In 1983 Colonel Burns wrote
I favour humans over ideology, but right now the ideologues are winning, and they're creating a stage for constant artificial high dramas, where everyone is either a magnificent hero or a sickening villain. We can lead good, ethical lives, but some bad phraseology in a Tweet can overwhelm it all - even though we know that's not how we should define our fellow humans. What's true about our fellow humans is that we are clever and stupid. We are grey areas.
And so ... when you see an unfair or an ambiguous shaming unfold, speak up on behalf of the shamed person. A babble of opposing voices - that's democracy.
The great thing about social media was how it gave a voice to voiceless people. Let's not turn it into a world where the smartest way to survive is to go back to being voiceless.
Jon Ronson Quotes: I favour humans over ideology,
There are obviously a lot of very ill people out there. But there are also people in the middle, getting overlabeled, becoming nothing more than a big splurge of madness in the minds of the people who benefit from it.
Jon Ronson Quotes: There are obviously a lot
[ ... ] we will turn this place around, and a new civilization can be born that does not know boundary lines but knows better how to live in the garden and knows that we are one thought away from paradise.
Jon Ronson Quotes: [ ... ] we will
After the interview ended, Stone and I were ushered out. Alex had an interview with Ted Nugent to conduct. In the elevator, Stone scrutinized me. "When we try to assess threats," he said, "the kooks are almost always wearing snowsuits in 90-degree weather.
Jon Ronson Quotes: After the interview ended, Stone
Shame internalized can lead to agony.
Jon Ronson Quotes: Shame internalized can lead to
We don't want obvious exploitation. We want smoke-and-mirrors exploitation.
Jon Ronson Quotes: We don't want obvious exploitation.
She summarized: "So. Don't get shitfaced, don't fist her ass, enjoy.
Jon Ronson Quotes: She summarized:
maybe the American Psychiatric Association had a crazy desire to label all life a mental disorder. I
Jon Ronson Quotes: maybe the American Psychiatric Association
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